On May 27th, Saint Zelensky accused Russia of committing “genocide” in the Donbass (the Ukraine’s Donetsk and Lugansk provinces, a.k.a. the Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples’ Republics.)
The Western press agencies picked it up and made headlines out of it, because, what else are they to do?
For them, if Saint Z said it, it’s news.
Let’s see what the locals have to say.
The below two videos (both evidently taken by Russian or Donetsk soldiers) are from the town of Svetlodarsk, the center of a massively fortified, Ukrainian salient in Donetsk territory since 2014 or 2015.
The town was evacuated (without a fight) by Ukrainian forces a few days ago, after coming under threat of encirclement from the northeast.
Here’s the first video.
The ladies from 0:00 to around 0:14 are saying, among other things, “Yes, of course we waited (for you)” and (the smiling blonde in the pink cream coat) “Everyone wants to see, hug, and kiss you!”
The ladies from around 0:15 to 0:26 are also elated. The one on the right says, “We awaited you for so long.”
Then, the man behind them says (rough translation, cannot be translated literally), “You made it here, good job guys… Wonderful, wonderful.”
The older folks starting from 0:27, also seem pleased. The white-haired lady says (rough translation, to get the point across), “Well, you know what we had to live with here.”
The man next to her adds, “So we waited, waited with impatience. On (satellite?) TV, we watch Russian channels, and (we track where is the) theater of military operations, where is it, where is it moving to… Like generals who track where the forces are, where they will pass… We sweated for every soldier, for all of them.”
I’m sorry, I can’t process this. What did this guy say? He sounds like he’s speaking from occupied France in late summer 1944, awaiting the Yanks with a bottle of champagne that he had buried under his chicken coop when the Krauts moved into town. There is smoke coming out of my ears, and I don’t think it’s from my fourth booster shot.
Doesn’t he know, it’s a big no-no to pick up Russian broadcasts on Ukrainian territory? Someone charge this guy with treason, please. He’s disloyal, like… like Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz!
The last few seconds of the video shows four local boys posing with Donetsk soldiers, the Victory Banner—the flag of the Red Army’s 150th Rifle Division, raised over the Reichstag in 1945, and now flown over all territories newly under control of Russian, Donetsk, and/or Lugansk forces—and (at left) what may be the given unit’s colors.
I can imagine the haters saying (as has already happened with other liberated cities) that the Russians got all these people to come out at gunpoint, or at best, by giving them a free meal and a movie ticket with a coupon for Twizzlers or Sour Patch Kids. Well, you know what they say: Haters gonna hate!
Here’s the second video:
The little girl relates, “I ran with (my) grandmother to see the flag… We sat over there. I was so happy. I don’t know how to convey it in words.”
She then relates how she was studying in Ukrainian but now expects to be studying in Russian (obviously the language she and 95 percent of the Donbass speaks at home and in the course of routine business.)
Of course, what you don’t see, off camera, is the Russian gun pointed at her grandmother’s head. “One wrong word, girl, and babushka is toast.” LOL, sure.
To be fair, public opinion is nowhere 100 percent in one direction. However, I’m guessing most of those who were just fine under Ukrainian rule (for sure, the appointed mayor and his family and a bunch of other officials and their families) got out with the retreating Ukrainian forces.
(Just as happened in this same part of the world, when the Germans retreated in 1943.)
If any of this is a surprise to you, perhaps it’s finally, finally time to ditch the double facemask and unplug from the Lamestream Media?
I mean, do you want a form of virtual reality entertainment, or do you want information?
A final, unrelated note: Many commenters ask how the next phase will go, how much destruction, etc. Folks, I don’t expect that much destruction. It’s one thing to defend the Ukraine by wasting the Donbass and some Russian-oriented towns and villages in Kharkov. It’s quite another when you have to defend parts of the Ukraine inhabited by “good, loyal Ukrainians”, including the families of Ukrainian army soldiers and officers. After the Donbass and Kharkov, there won’t be any more “Stalingrads.” This isn’t quite Nazi Germany; these Aryans won’t de-house themselves.
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I expected more than two videos wiht 0:50 and 0:42. I know there are more of these videos outside. Would be great to have a bigger collection before i send it to others.
You have no idea what I would do for a Sour Patch Kids coupon.
Jacob – this is another comment I got when I shared your video on FB 🤦♀️ Another friend who has a daily Kool-Aid bath. methinks!!!
« I am puzzled by the site claiming non propaganda, whilst submitting a biased view without reflection. I don’t doubt that there may be Russian supporters in a breakaway Russian city, but that isn’t the known view of the whole Donbas region. Plus, without unbiased translation we (in the West) cannot verify what is being spoken. Was the Z for Zelinsky even? Examining all contributions to be evenly informed.»
The reason Ukrainian Nazi batallions are so eager to kill other (former) Ukrainians in the Donbass has nothing to do with nationalism as such. The Ukrainian Nazis believe they are descended from Norse ubermensch. They use Runic script and speak about “Valhalla” and there seems to be nothing remotely Central European, let alone Ukrainian. about any of that. Their continued dehumanization of Russians as “orca” isn’t accidental.
Jacob – I watched the Duran video with you in it yesterday and so afterwards, I copied this URL and put it onto FB for my friends to see.
Got a bite from an old friend where he posted “Child abuse” under the video. Not only did he drink the Kool-Aid, I think he bathes in it every day. GAH!!
Just to correct one small detail:
“The last few seconds of the video shows four local boys posing with Donetsk soldiers, the Victory Banner—the flag of the Red Army’s 150th Rifle Division, raised over the Reichstag in 1945, and now flown over all territories newly under control of Russian, Donetsk, and/or Lugansk forces—and (at left) what may be the given unit’s colors.”
The flag on the left is of Lugansk People’s Republic, not unit flag and troops appear to be LPR forces.
Maybe someone mentioned it already, but I haven’t noticed.
A long 8 years for those poor people.
I remember doing something very similar in 2015-16 when you could just search on a few key words and an entire gallery of azov nazi rune, slaughtered civilians i.e. inna kukuruza, tuvs, gorlovka madonna, odessa inferno, mariupol massacres, tiki torch parades, McCain/Tyahnybok photo-ops, ad nauseam appear (and all long since purged).
One day, I showed a few pages from one photo gallery on my laptop to one of those solar city techs musk was sending around for free solar array workups. He looked up at me and gasped: “Those are the people we’re supporting over there?” He was truly in shock.
It’s clear now why the MSM went into censorship overdrive over Ukraine. They couldn’t afford not to, lest the public turn on a dime.
Anyone with an open mind can see the USA / UK is operating from the same disgrceful, murderous totaly disengenuous, hypocritical arrogant prideful and yes rascist play book used for self gain for millenia. Now hwoever there are two things of note. The apparatus man has is planet ending and two, they are not getting their way. If….and I say if an outside observer who is totally impartial looked down on us here on Earth in this time, he she they (no LG BS here) they would make three conclusions. 1 We are this close (thumb and forefinger in close proximetry) from a Dystopian nightmare. 2. The situation is being escalated by the very Duo who planned this conflict, the same Duo and who have smeared Russia for starting it. Due to the high casualties and suffering of millions, this is evil. 3 Lastly this media brainwashing portarys the masses in a bad light. To gullible, to easy to control. I congradulate this channel and others like it for the resistance shown.
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We were warned at the beginning of this conflict that we would see new heights in propaganda from all sides. The Ukrainian side has exceeded all expectations.
Jacob, I’d be curious to get your thoughts on Stephen Kotkin’s take on this situation from Lex Fridman’s recent podcast…
Been watching this from the start Jacob and your analysis is quite correct. The vast majority of these people are very happy the Russian army came to help unless of coarse there are Russian military behind the camera going to shoot anyone says the wrong thing.
Over the last few months I have gathered together a small network of telegram channels which I have come to rely on for truthful reporting behind enemy lines. Sure they are a little biased but that is ok. They are pro Russian and understandably so. This is where we are so am so thankful for your reporting because it shows me I am not so mad after all in my reading of the situation on the ground in Ukraine.
Regards
Jimmy
Thank you Jacob !!
I am so happy for them!! I never thought that I might one day want more to be a Russian, than an American, but here I am, disgusted with the corrupt political machine in the US, and admiring the solid reason and planning the Russians have put into every part of this, in their determination to free a people of tyranny. Mind blown, but I rejoice still, for those who have been freed from a nation that sought to destroy them.
As a fellow American, my sentiments as well.
That is also my thoughts on this matter also. I always wanted to visit Russia never imagined I would actually prefer to live in Russia as opposed to the west. That is where my head is now. Living in Russia is more attractive to me more than ever now because the insanity of the west is just intolerable now. I have no clue how it can be fixed or if it can be fixed.
Hi
It makes a very long time i haven’t seen any video of population/civilians opposing to Russian forces. The UKR PR were very prolific at the beginning of the conflict … (even it was many footage from 2014 / Russian speaking opposing to the Ukrainians tanks … reused as Civilians vs Russians). Are the Hollywood writers on strike ?
YOU SHOULD PUT A MONERO CRYPTO ADDRESS TO THIS WEBSITE. I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT YOUR WORK.
The corporate mainstream media in USA/EU/UK has gone into total propaganda overdrive, unlike anything seen before. ABC, CBS, MSNBC, WaPo, NY Times, CNN, NPR–even Fox News has become pseudo left psy-op propaganda
I spent 4 years around 2010 on business in Donbas. Once I asked locals why nobody speaks Ukrainian. They laughed and said they only have it in school and sometimes they have to use it with gov’t agencies. Otherwise all speak Russian. All technical and business reports were done in Russian as well.
I’ve been to all the places where there now is fighting and just wish to people there permanent peace after this – they deserve it.
I also visited few times Lvov and areas around Ivano-Frankivsk and Chernivtsi (south-east of Lvov towards Romanian border). All settlements there had their names on road signs in Ukrainian and Romanian. There are plenty of people there who do not consider themselves Ukrainians.
If these be actors, each one deserves an Academy Award! Very uplifting video!
What the ‘West’ is missing is that right now ‘Russian’ and ‘Ukrainian’ is a political choice , not ethnicity, in this civil war in Ukraine
– ‘Ukrainian’ is a NATO, EU, Nazis, Bendera, single forced language over all, Украина Понад усе (deutschland über alles, direct translation into Ukranian), Avoz, itd. “Nazis”. This include all ethnicities and nationalities including plenty of russian speaking ethnic russians (Azov was started from Kharkov football ultras which is 100% russian city). When Ukrainian armed forces run from Liman few days ago and recorded on video, they were ALL speaking russian language..
– ‘Russians’ stand for both languages have rights, no foreign occupation, no fascism, no destruction of history (including WW2 memorials), respect/honor your land/ancestors, etc. These include PLENTY of ukranian language and ethnic ukranians who are fighting against Kiev and ‘NATO occupation’
Because it is a political choice, you would get weird reports when a russian language nazis within Azov on Donbass position shelled ukranian language and ukranian ethnic villages, it is reported as ‘Ukranians are fighing on Russian separatists’.
So it is not a war between the states (which neither state declared), not a war between ethnicities, it is a war of ideology/political positions primarily between people within former Ukraine and all former Soviet Union, i.e. there are chechens fighting on both sides, Georgians (Kartveli) on both sides, Pushtuns on both sides (!), etc, ‘Russians’ include volunteers from US, France, and all over the world, so are the ‘Ukranians’.
Next time you hear ‘we stand with Ukraine’, understand it means ‘we stand with fascism’.
And yes, Jacob, I think the only thing that would stop Russia from winning is full on nuclear war where everyone dies. They literally dont give a damn on how much ‘support’ and ‘volunteers’ is being sent – ‘our land is big , our soil is rich, come with evil intent and we will find the place (in the soil) for all of you , volunteers. Hundreds, thousands, of tens of thousands, etc we will bury you all’.
I want to salute our brave US Senators, McConnell, Cornyn, Collins, and Bareassho, who traveled to the war zone in Kiev, to support homo-erotic comedic actor/President _elensky.
These US criminal support Ukro-Nazis. Ukraine is now a Nazi state — US taxpayers are paying salaries of card-carrying Nazis.
They probably went to check on their ‘investments’ in the corruption that is Ukraine.
That made my day ! Thank you Sir !
The Dreizen Report radiates truth and common sense. The Western Media have become “Prostitutes of the Mind” , just a false and empty show!
Thank you for the joyful report. You can feel their relief.
I’m on the train to London and I see a Ukrainian flag on a pole in a builders yard. That sucker obviously has been taken in by all the BS from the corporate media. You gotta feel sorry for the guy. Anyway, I really appreciate the analysis and impartial reportage, and thank God we have people out there like you telling it as it is.
I read ships are entering Mariupol with building supplies for reconstruction efforts. I find it amazing how fast and throug Russia had committed itself to rebuilding towns, offering open dialogue with local communities,reestablishing services, and a local law enforcement elements. It is giving the world hope.
One hundred percent opposite to the US never rebuilding or caring for the local population of its last three-four invasion campaigns – which all ultimately failed.
Quick question – is there any new information on the campaign of rounding up and putting down “suspected Russian sympathizers and agents” in the parts of Ukraine under Kiev’s control? You were one of the very few people who reported on it with some nice detail and images and videos. Any word on if they finished hunting down all the “undesirables” they could? Did any new information come up about those who were already disappeared? I know former Rada member Kiva announced he has testimony from an escapee from the death squads, so this topic is likely to heat up soon.
There may still be at least one “second Mariupol”, and that’s Odessa. No way the war ends without Odessa being denazified – and the Banderite faction regards it with almost the same hatred as Mariupol and runs it similarly. Odessa is also the only real stronghold of theirs outside of what’s being rolled up in Donbass (and Lwow, but that’s by default). So, I feel it’s just a question of when the southwest offensive is launched that we’ll see more Mariupol-style things.
One hardly knows who to believe any more.
The MSM is beyond complicit in this. I have conversations daily with people who think that Putin is a monster here, and are totally unaware of what has been going on in Donbass for a decade or more. They are all MSM viewers. And sadly, when I try to direct them to a website that would tell them the actual information, it is only ‘alternative’ sites, that these MSM viewers won’t believe. They are even unaware of the Azov/Nazi connection.
The child is clearly blinking a SOS message. I didn.t realise the significance of the US calling for a ceasefire in your previous blogs, could you please give a brief explanation of the different types of surrender and what a ceasefire entails . Thanks.
For the first time in human history we can actually ask every human being on the planet the question what would they prefer. War and destruction or Peace and prosperity? It would be an interesting challenge to do such a thing.
Benjamin Grant(son of the Tory MP Grant) doesn´t seem to enjoy fighting an Army that shots back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LHd4Ip14Hk&list=PLBChXeaWkYxKZH6AoaLvOWEBYqn76monZ&index=355
Here you have an Polish film from a couple of years ago where they portray how the Banderist behaved during WWII, for the people that only can take in info from entertainment(we all know some).
Here’s a video of the “real” victories of this superman squad –
Givi and Motorola can now start to rest in peace!
Most people just want to be left alone most of the time to live their lives. You know, take care of their work, their home lives, their family. Maybe even improve their lives, even if that is an illusion. Very few want war with the violence, fighting and killing. Most people want peace.
4th booster, that’s nothing. I now take mRNA intravenously.
Good to see such happiness and relief from tyranny!
What is your opinion of ‘Military Summary’ (Belarus based)?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA/videos
Such concise detail.
Russia is winning, so of course Ukraine has to come up with some new horror story to make sure the people in the West remain on its side. Whoever is writing this script has a great imagination. They will come up with the wildest lies just to stick it to Putin. LOL
Here in Asia we saw the Western MSM lies up front and personal too. They lionised the Hong Kong riots at the same time that the rioters were beating up policemen and people who disagreed with them. In the same way that the war in Ukraine is opening up Western eyes, the HK riots opened up Asian ones.
Good report. I like your style.
The thing that I find particularly frustrating these days is that people ‘wake up’ to the fact the government and media are lying to them about some things, but can’t seem to take the extra step to doubt everything in the government/corporate narrative. It’s not easy to discover the truth, but a good first step is to recognize that the professional liars have no regard for the truth regarding any subject at all.
Videos did not surprise me, anyone who is from former Soviet Union, expected this. Dissolution of Union was illegal and not right, everybody wanted communism to end, but not to destroy the country. Putin is great leader, I wish US had someone like him.
The images of women lying in the gutters of Donbass with their heads blown off in 2014 still haunts me. They were just normal everyday people going about their daily lives …. shopping, crossing the streets …. when they were slaughtered by the US backed Ukrainian thugs/mercenaries. So those in these videos have lived with that horror and threat for nearly a decade.and have now been freed by their Russian friends and compatriots. May God truly bless President Putin and the Russian Federation. I so wish we were blessed with leadership and government here in the West such as Russia but as more and more are becoming aware, we are controlled by the purest of evil. Interesting that 99 year old Kissinger is now admitting total defeat and urging (z)Elensky to the peace table … too little, too late Mr Kissinger … Vladimir Putin totally calls the shots, not you and the despicable Davos crowd. Thank you once again Jacob for another brilliant and truthful post
Talk about things things coming apart at the seams fast, Tass is reporting Severodonetsk is under complete Russian control. This according to Ramzan Kadyrov, He’s the head of Russia’s Chechen Republic. I love this quote:
“The initial plan was to liberate Severodonetsk in a week, but today I made corrections and set the task of taking control of the town in three days. As a result, our soldiers have done it even more quickly – in three hours,” Kadyrov added.
Looks like the jig is up in the Donbas.
It’s nonsense.
Clearly Russian “crisis” actors. Too much at ease and too many smiles. The kid? She’s the most subversive of all. Sneaky Rooskies! LOL.
Begone, Alex Jones!!!!! (Kidding)
Bombshell!
Larry Johnson says his sources have told him that members of the Azrov Battalion were flown into DC for January 6 to start violence.
He says they were flown in by Alexandria Chalupa and that his sources have evidence (Flight information, etc.).
And I have a bridge to sell you.
breaks my heart to hear that little girl, thank God they are free now.
I agree. However, it appears that her present happiness belies living through years of war – visible in the darkness encircling her eyes (not shadows from lighting. I hope that this conflict and the evil involvement of the US will open the eyes of all Americans and that we vow – as a nation – never to allow our government to engage in such atrocities (whether overtly or covertly) in our name. In the end, the buck stops with the American people who elect representatives who lie and betray us to personally enrich themselves. This failure to actively participate in governance by and for the people at all levels must stop now.
Something I’d be interested in getting your thoughts on: if Russia wanted to “respond” to weapon systems being supplied to Ukraine that it felt upped the ante too much, do you think starting to take out spy satellites / Starlink over Ukraine is something that is being considered? My understanding is that the S-500 supposedly can nail LEO satellites, and Russia (and I assume the US) have other anti-satellite weapons. I have not heard this option discussed, and only things like arming US adversaries with better weapons as a next elevation step.
Thankyou for this.
of course it is precisely what we should all expect – much like the celebrations in Syria whenever Assad/Russia regain a town. But so rarely shown.
That was a good post! It was happy!! Iike happy!
There is so much talk about US long range MLRS and Harpoons, whicha re going to be a “game changers”.
What do you think about that?
Great article, thanks
Totally unrelated question: What’s the latest on the motorized (howitzers?) from (Slovakia?), which look like 8 x 8s, Tatra chassis? Is there any Ukrainian truck transport heavy enough to get them to the front lines, or shall they have to be driven all that way under their own power?
Jacob,
Delighted for them. Wish I could somehow rejoice there with them.
Thanks for your translations!
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Great post. Another great claim parroted on the MSM is that Ukrainians who “fled” ( were forcefully removed) to Russia, are in Siberian gulags, have to be returned to Ukraine ( as part of Russia’s terms of surrender aka settlement) Why nobody challenged that narrative, a brave soul ventured to St. Petersburg to document that horror. In SkyNews piece titled “The Ukrainians seeking refuge in Russia” , a reporter in refugee center full of Ukrainians from Dombas introduces the scene with” there is a talk of Nazis that Ukraine is using is using civilians as human shields people who fled Dombas who believe what Russian tv tells them”
Which is followed by teary eye woman saying “The Ukrainian troops are the ones doing the shelling, and then they make a provocation and say it was Russia. And when the world will hear us?”
Absolutely no shame. SkyNews bets that its audience is unable to read.
Regarding the lady speaking about AFU provocations, she is actually introduced as someone that believes in “Putins’s Propaganda” on TV, thus conditioning the listener to be skeptical of what she says because, well… she is an innocent Ukrainian caught in a evil web of deceit – this is basically just turning an assumption into a fact
Just like some moments before she speaks about “a liberation no one asked for” IIRC…
More and more you see these guys doing these things, turning personal assumptions into facts and presenting them as such… Presstitutes in my country do it all the time for years!
If this is happening at gun point then these must be the best people at acting a forced role under duress in all human history.
As you say, across Ukraine and even in the Donbass itself there will be other people who do not feel that way. War is complex and rarely a simple narrative of one side the saints, the other one pure evil.
As outsiders, we ought not to foment it for our ends and our duty is to help finish it as peacefully as possible. This is where Uncle Sam and his follower states have gone very wrong.
Lamestream Media is a new one on me – works very well.
Oh yeah I keep getting sneaky green men on Donbas walked into it and made it rebel. I keep asking why stop there? Why not send insurgents to Kiev, Lviv or London and just take it over? Insurgencies only work when there is local support. Most people just want to get along with what is there but Russia keeps winning its wars because they are largely working with local support. South Ossetia told me all i needed to know about where the West was going with this…Putin could not save his own mother without here being coerced into accepting his aid.
I always knew Western Ukraine was a nationalist hotbed supported by Western powers for centuries to control the area. Did not know how embedded the CIA was though…
Oh the Ukronazi junta continued that narrative, it just didn’t get much MSM airtime. Remember when they handed out AKs like candy to every moron in Kiev for “defense”? All extrajudicial killings that resulted were “suppressing Russian saboteurs” … when in reality they just killed random civilians. How many died because they didn’t want to give up their car or couldn’t say “bread” in Ukrainian properly, we’ll never know. Almost completely ignored just like the hundreds of lynchings among other crimes.
Of course, this is what should be expected when you end up releasing a bunch of criminals from prison and arm them. I’m pretty sure that reporter that ended up dying back then was most likely shot by one of these morons with an AK playing at soldier at a blockpost.
In other cases, there’s some pretty gruesome video evidence on telegram, heck, back when some news channel had that youtube webcam up with audio from maidan square hotel you could hear periodic small arms fire and at that point Russians were not even in the outskirts of Kiev.
Is there a risk of counter offensive, just like around Kharkov in the north? Where dpr/Russia retreated strategically, it seams. But still left some inhabited areas.
Northern Ukraine has been reported as having small numbers of military.
Really brightened my day, thank you and I hope you have a good weekend.
He does really good analysis in spite been an American. We 🇷🇺 appreciate this kind of people.
The west loves dictate from their podium how people most live they pretend to teach others their’s virtude signaling policies but in fact who needs be teach are them. The time of western dictatorship is over and it will fall soon and we 🇷🇺 will need do nothing they do it by themselves.
Someone should volunteer to add the captions to these videos (it’ll make these pages more condensed and easier to share with just the video)