Got a YUUUUUGE piece here about the upcoming Caucasus war.
But first…..
Another offering of the Dreizin Institute of Applied Political Science.
I’ve just now changed the “coffee” value to $3.00, and will send another “premium” audio message (of 15:12 duration) to every email address associated with a new donation to me of at least $6.00, that is made between now and Wednesday, September 13th, at 8:30am U.S. Eastern Time.
Again, please don’t blame me if the message goes to your spam or social folders. What you should do, now, if you haven’t already, is add jacob@dreizinreport.com to your list of trusted contacts. If you still don’t see my email by late on Wednesday, write to me directly. (Don’t sound off in the comments.) ALSO, please don’t email me to complain that you have not received it immediately upon giving $6. It’s not an automated process. I will send out the product on a roughly once-daily basis, through Wednesday.
(To show my great appreciation, I had sent the last two premium editions, for free, to my all-time TOP donors, as well as to those who had given very generously but just missed the respective windows. I WILL NOT be doing that, going forward. Thanks for your understanding!!!)
The subject of this one:
That Republicans are NOT an opposition party at the Federal level… all comes down to their FUNDRAISING. And, this WILL NOT change (until or unless, everything else changes.)
Sure, it sounds “obvious”, but who is talking about it???
And, mega-concisely, in 15 minutes?
Yup!
As usual, you’ll hear some thoughts that were on this blog previously… but, I expound and add to them considerably.
When I hear “Rules-Based Order”, I reach for my revolver
This is about a week old, still current, but also a bit dated, as now they’ve also told the AMERICAN ambassador to leave.
Somehow, I imagine zim/zer is more likely to oblige, than the French one. But, who knows?
Please listen below:
(Audio file duration: 4:52.)
Solving the Kardashians
If you look up “History of Azerbaijan”, “Azerbaijani people”, “Origin of Azerbaijani people”, etc., on Wikipedia, there is no definite, coherent explanation as to the ethnogenesis.
How did Turkic speakers come to live in such large numbers in the south Caucasus and northwest Iran? It’s glossed over, not adequately explained. Like, “We think, and we assume….”
What I gather from Wikipedia, the Azeris (who write these entries) believe they are some nebulous mix of “left behind” Seljuk Turks from the 11th century migration to Anatolia, and the Turkic soldiers within the Mongol army that came to rule the Caucasus from Baku.
It’s sloppy, not convincing. It sounds like they are fooling themselves.
Well, Fauci also probably writes his own biography on Wikipedia.
Until circa 1600, the territory now comprising the state of Azerbaijan, and northwest Iran, was likely still majority-inhabited by Indo-Iranians, primarily (not exclusively but primarily) Armenians in what’s now Azerbaijan, and Iranians in northwest Iran.
The entire southeast Caucasus (all of what is now Azerbaijan, at least as far north as Derbent in Russian Dagestan, and what’s now the state of Armenia) had been alternately Iranian-controlled or Iranian allied/tributary, for many centuries.
(Armenia typically bounced between Rome/Constantinople and Iran.)
Circa 1600, Iran was under a long-ruling, ethnic Turkic dynasty called the Safavids.
(Some Azeris claim the Safavids to have been Azeri, which is nonsense, as the word “Azeri” didn’t even exist at the time.)
By that time, for over a century, the Turkic Shahs and/or their local (Caucasus) Turkic allies who lorded over largely non-Turkic populations, had been steadily bringing in (from Central Asia) Turks like them, to colonize northwest Iran and what are now Azerbaijan and Armenia.
The single biggest wave was around 1620, when tribes from (modern-day) Uzbekistan, numbering supposedly 300,000, were settled in what is now the country of Azerbaijan and parts of Armenia.
This was presumably to provide for a loyal (to the Turkic Shahs) population in this Iranian – Anatolian border area.
Roughly the same thing happened, at roughly the same time, in northwest Iran.
The above, are KNOWN FACTS.
Beyond the known facts, we are left to speculate as to the consequences of such a great migration into such a relatively small area, within such a short time.
In my view, this many foreign colonists at one time, in an already-settled area, must have been a genocidal undertaking.
Keep in mind, populations were much smaller then. The sudden wave of immigrants would have been comparable, perhaps even almost equal, to the size of the native population, similar to the Anglo-Saxons invading post-Roman Britain.
In general, it’s likely that many natives were, if not killed, then driven off their farmsteads into starvation and ignominious death.
In any case, on all relevant entries on Wikipedia—all written or heavily-edited by Azeris—the 17th century migration is COMPLETELY IGNORED.
I think that says a lot.
Of course, the 17th century colonists must have taken many of the native women, because within a short historical span, the colonists’ descendants came to look like Anatolian Turks (very roughly the same story there), Iranians, or any Caucasian or east Mediterranean people.
I venture, this was the ethnogenesis of the Azeris of northwest Iran and Azerbaijan. In the 17th century.
In any case… Between that time, and the Bolshevik Revolution, Turkic speakers in present day Azerbaijan remained a backward, almost exclusively rural population.
The one truly major town in what came to be Soviet Azerbaijan, Baku, which had once served as the seat of regional Mongol authority, remained dominated by Armenians, Caucasus Jews, probably also some Iranians and Dagestani peoples. Later, Russians and Russian Jews moved in as well.
The predatory Russian Empire broke off several pieces of Iran in the 19th century. One of these came to be Soviet Azerbaijan, the other, Tajikistan.
The Russian/Soviet piece of Azerbaijan is simply what Russia managed to break off. The majority of Azeris (as they came to be called) live across the border in Iran, and still speak more-or-less the same language.
(BTW, Iran’s supreme poo-bah, Khamenei, is Azeri on his father’s side.)
After WW2, Iran’s Azeris briefly rose up, and their chieftain supposedly asked to join the USSR. But Stalin was a cautious dude, and his state was busy enough, rebuilding itself as well as building China and North Korea.
Incidentally, when the Bolshevik Revolution came to Baku, the city was the most “cosmopolitan” and economically developed (accounting for close to 100% of Russia’s oil industry) in the entire Caucasus.
Almost all local revolutionaries were Armenian, Russian, Jewish, or Georgian. Their armed force was Armenian.
24 of 26 members of the original Baku Soviet, later chased out, and executed by Whites in Central Asia… were NOT Azeri.
(And, the only time local Azeris got the upper hand before the Red Army finally moved in, was with direct Turkish intervention.)
This gives you an idea as to how relatively few Azeris lived in Baku. Or, perhaps, how little they mattered.
Under Soviet rule, the rural population was somewhat lifted up, made literate, and to some extent urbanized, such that by 1991, there was a large Azeri majority in the city, with an entirely Soviet-created, Azeri secular “intelligentsia”, where none whatsoever had existed before.
In short, the USSR created the state of Azerbaijan, which did NOT have its own history like Armenia or Georgia.
However, Azeris counted for very little in the USSR.
Coming from a low cultural level (prior to the Revolution), unlike Armenia and Georgia, they produced no major names for Soviet culture or industry. Certainly, there were people of local talent, but they did not make it on the national stage.
CRUCIALLY, Azeris were not as successful in the Soviet Army. (This came to matter later, keep reading.)
Baku was one of the seats of armed rebellion against the USSR in late 1990 to early 1991, although in the USA, it got much less attention than Lithuania.
As in many other parts of the USSR (even Russia itself), the revolt was led by various local “democratic reformers.”
Azeri politics were finally stabilized by a former local KGB boss and USSR Politburo member, last name Aliev. His son is still ruling the country, 30 years later.
Sadly, the period (from 1988) leading up to Independence, was accompanied by huge pogroms against Armenians living in all Azerbaijani cities.
These were essentially a continuation of very bloody, communal violence in 1918, which had been suppressed by the Soviets.
Several hundred thousand Armenians were driven out, destitute, into Armenia, or Russia. Almost no Armenians remained, the country was cleansed.
A process begun circa 1500AD, was completed.
(There were Azeri “righteous gentiles” who helped shelter Armenians, BTW.)
The one place were Armenians were able to make a stand, in fact, starting in 1988… was in Nagorno-Karabakh. It was Karabakh’s desire to join with Armenia, which probably triggered the first pogroms.
This was a small, highly “mixed” area within the Azerbaijan SSR, similar in principle to pre-1992 Bosnia.
Karabakh’s majority Armenian population, and its proximity to Armenia, as well as the Azeris’ lack of substantive military experience (Armenians did much better in the Soviet Army)…..
…..all led to Azerbaijan’s loss of the region…..
…..and the expulsion of 25,000 Azeris.
Since then, returning Karabakh—and its former Azeri residents or their descendants to their ancestral homes—has been a national priority for Azerbaijan.
In fact, it has been the MAIN, perhaps SOLE, ideological justification of the Aliev monarchy.
Azeris are not zombies, there have been large protests, but what’s GUARANTEED, is they will almost all snap to attention, whenever someone starts talking about reclaiming national pride in Karabakh, blah blah.
It’s a tribal thing.
(Like “Democrats” and “Republicans.” The brains turn off.)
Since the 1990s, Russia has sold weapons to both sides, it was a military stalemate for decades.
Baku had much more money (thanks to lots of oil and gas), and bought more weapons, but its military leadership was useless, no good.
Israel, and then Turkey, broke the stalemate.
Starting around 2007, Israel began courting Azerbaijan as an “Israeli airstrip and refueling station” for potential bombing of Iranian nuclear sites.
(You see, unlike the USA, Israel has no planes that can fly 3000km round-trip without refueling.)
Almost immediately, AIPAC, with its ears to the ground, sent a delegation of some of its board and top donors, to meet with Aliev’s son and his wife. They were given a command performance at the national opera hall or whatever, and a tour of the (formerly) Jewish quarter of Baku.
(I read about this in AIPAC’s public newsletter, it happened just before I worked there, I’m NOT disclosing anything.)
Quietly, Israel and Azerbaijan became allies.
To prevent another Holocaust…..
Israel sold Azeris what they needed…..
…..to fight what remained of a small nation…..
…..that had suffered the first modern genocide.
(Yes, Israel does what it needs to survive, but as with ANY other country that tends to be in the news, ITS SHIT STINKS TO THE HEAVENS AND INTO OUTER SPACE.)
(Also, of course, Uncle Sam held off on “democracy support” in Azerbaijan. Europe wanted—and got—Azeri gas, which helped to diversify from Russia. So, the Alievs always got a pass. No one talks about “Democracy” in Azerbaijan, the way they talked about it in Georgia and now Armenia. Soros and the U.S. State Department never much bothered Azerbaijan.)
Later, Erdogan’s “neo-imperial” Turkey stepped in, taking over all planning, doctrine, organization, etc. for the Azeri air force, which soon included, and in fact, became largely…..
….A DRONE ARM.
By 2020, when the younger Aliev launched a war to retake Karabakh, the Azeri side—with Turkish “advisors” likely running the show—had many Turkish as well as perhaps several hundred Israeli surveillance and purpose-built kamikaze drones (the world’s best) in stock.
It was the first drone war.
Armenia and Karabakh had no drones, and their air defenses were sparse. Such as these were, they were largely of the sort intended to identify, target, and bring down full-size aircraft, not drones.
The initial Azeri advance did VERY poorly, but eventually, the Karabakh army (closely related to, but separate from the Armenian army) was overwhelmed by drones hitting its hardware and anywhere that its soldiers gathered.
Karabakh fought a “real” war.
The Turks mostly played a video game.
The Turks won.
(Russia learned NOTHING from this, and paid a price in 2022.)
What saved Karabakh from total liquidation…..
…..was the Azeri downing of a Russian helicopter, on a routine surveillance mission, just inside Armenia’s official border.
Putin stepped in and forced Aliev to accept Russian peacekeepers in Karabakh.
Karabakh’s capital, and some disjointed areas, remained under local Armenian (Karabakh government) administration.
The Russians were to ensure that, among other things, Armenians, and their goods, could get from Point A to Point B.
On a larger scale, Russia had to freeze the war, so as to “maintain credibility as a regional broker“…..
…..and, to avoid violence between Armenian and Azeri citizens of Russia (each at up to 2.0 million)…..
…..especially as Russia’s Azeris are well-known for a very high degree of organization, and thus, predictably, a tightknit pushy aggressiveness… which often involves hooliganism and youth violence (assaults and street fights, etc.), as the young men know their successful elders—or the entire communi-TAY—will hire the best lawyers and/or bribe the police.
Aliev had other plans.
Of course, he’s not done.
As soon as Russia got tied up with the Ukraine, groups of young, fit, mostly male, Azeri “environmental activists” began aggressively challenging Russian checkpoints, harassing the Russians, going toe to toe, psychological warfare, nasty.
Also, blocking the roads themselves, wherever they left like.
Baku’s army also popped up here and there, where it wasn’t supposed to be, forcing the Russians to play a peaceful but TENSE game of whack-a-mole.
Basically, trying to wear them out.
(Aliev also began selling munitions to the Ukraine, not a whole lot, but enough to get on Uncle Sam’s good side.)
As you can see, it’s Vlad “My Word Is Gold” Putin…..
…..with his dick stuck in the Ukraine…..
…..versus a sketchy, aggressive haggler from some eastern bazaar, presumably a long-lost brother of Turkey’s Sultan Erdogan.
(Stereotypes exist for a reason.)
Today, Armenia’s “Quisling” government, with a security cabinet of Soros program graduates, with only minority (public) support, but without a coherent, functional opposition, is preparing to give up Karabakh, swing away from Russia, and become a joint protectorate of the U.S. and Turkey.
(The “signaling” has been INTENSE. They even just sent their president’s wife to “deliver aid” and shake hands with Zelensky at some “mental health conference” (LOL) in the Ukraine.)
This surrender will very likely involve an AZERI-CONTROLLED land corridor (on “mainland” Armenian territory) to Azerbaijan’s Nakhichevan enclave and Turkey… as well as expelling Russian forces from their longtime base in Giumri.
The Azeris have already painted their versions of Russia’s famous “letters” on their military vehicles, it’s ALL OUT IN THE OPEN.
The Final Triumph of the Turks in the south Caucasus, and the final (really final, this time) solution to the Armenian Question…..
…..seems to be at hand.
(Unless, something changes RADICALLY.)
Please sign up, if you haven’t already
If I ever get bounced from this blogging platform (not to mention, from Twitter), which, given enough time, is NOT UNLIKELY, then, I will take my mailing list and reconstitute from somewhere else, but, I WON’T be able to reach you, nor will you know where to find me (most of you can’t spell my name), IF I DON’T HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS. Please enter it, below:
Reminder
If you wish to leave a comment, please make sure you’ve donated at least $5 in the last two months. The email address that you submit with your comment, will be automatically checked against a constantly updated list of recent donors. If you’re not on that list, neither I nor Manny will ever see your comment; it will be automatically deleted. The purpose of this, is to keep freeloading riffraff from wasting my time, in terms of having to review their comments, which are, not always but too often, disorganized, rambling, too long, or just too many. (One freeloader posted 10 comments in a day, LOL. Another one admitted to commenting-while-stoned, when he inquired why I didn’t publish his page-long garbage rambling.) Thanks for your understanding!!!
Comments Policy
I really appreciate good comments. Many people come back here, in-between posts, just to read the comments. If you help me entertain them, you’re my hero. A few rules: This is not a chat board. Your comment must primarily, largely involve and directly touch upon something that, or someone whom, I wrote about in the post you’re commenting on. Life reminiscences (if relevant), relating your relevant personal experiences, your job, your commie college girlfriend, your idiot family members, your Ukrainian coworker, etc., if relevant, are all HIGHLY encouraged. The most interesting content here… is YOU. The only exceptions to the on-topic requirement, are if you’re calling attention to a technical problem with the site, or briefly stating how much you love the content or this Comments Policy. Don’t try to “legitimize” an off-topic comment by throwing in some little pre-thought or afterthought about what I wrote. NO DISCUSSIONS THAT STRAY FROM MY TOPICS. My topics are the only common denominator here, and while it may amuse you, most readers have no interest in your thoughts on the Punic wars, or on some guy named Serge, or on how much you generally / generically don’t like the Ukraine and Zelensky; it’s your way to kill your own time, but it adds no value for others. Which means, if you’re responding to someone else’s comment, your response must still relate directly to one of my topics. Doesn’t matter how much you generously donated, these rules apply equally to everyone. 350 word “per-comment” limit, no exceptions, 351 words won’t be published, sorry. 500 word “daily limit.” No rambling. If you’re not sure what “rambling” is, ask yourself, “Are others likely to understand and appreciate or enjoy my comment, or am I merely jerking off, or trying to have an ongoing, “public one-on-one chat” with Dreizin, or spewing toxic diarrhea that no one else wants to smell“? Nazis, commies, worshipful groupies of Mercouris/Johnson/etc., Jew baiters/haters, FBI agents-provocateurs, guys who forgot to take their Ritalin, passive-aggressive needling of the sysop or of other commenters (to include, by dipshits who think their attitude will fly if they mention possibly maybe potentially giving me money at some point—yes, “you people” are all the same), random questions that have no bearing on what I wrote (to include requests for my view on some commentator I’ve never heard of), no-punctuation writing by the smartphone generation, silly “Nadsat” lingo picked up from “The Saker” website, use of the BS term “SMO“, ALL CAPS writing (a sure sign of untreated autism), obsessives who just can’t leave a topic alone after they’ve already said everything (and just want to repeat themselves), and autistic bitching about the satanic USA and its evil pedo pervert elites and how they must be killed (or other bile in that vein), will not be tolerated. If you’ve got issues, this is not your “let it go” zone. Don’t write anything here, that your therapist wouldn’t approve of.
Thank You for and those commenting / providing informative links for helping to enlighten me – the average ignorant / poorly educated American – who almost never recognizes the harmful impact of the historical aberration known as ‘Unipolar American Global Hegemony’. Our ignorance of the interconnected nature of events underwritten by American Oligarchs in Ukraine, the Caspian basin, Africa, and Asia, coupled with the U.S.A’s domestic drift towards Fascism is terrifying. As a famous American once noted – Chickens always come home to roost. As for me, I just wish to capitalize on the best investment opportunities in this very chaotic world. GOD’s SUN will rise tomorrow & walk upon the waters, so we might as well be prosperous.
I get that the Armenian government is Soros-backed, but relying on the Americans for your security? Have they been asleep the last 60 years?
Sordid and tragic, like much of history. Armenia has a rich history, and produced some world class minds. On regional history, would you mind commenting on the “rebirth of Khazaria” narrative circulating since the Ukraine conflict began? Is Khazaria the origin of the Ashkenizi Jews?
No, it’s not. That crackpot theory has been disproven by modern genetic testing.
Off-topic BTW. Not the same “region.”
The first piece I have read anywhere on the Armenia Azerbaijan conflict that I have understood and which was coherent. Great to see it anchored in historical context too.
Clear that the US is very able to spend dollars to subvert local elites pretty much anywhere to follow US interests rather than be loyal to their own people. The empire will only die when this ability is lost. China and Russia have both managed (with greater difficulty it seems in Russia’s case) to have broken free of that subversion. Hence the hatred. I wonder if Armenia will break free too. Seems unlikely at the moment.
“Stereotypes exist for a reason”.. indeed they do.
Just a quick further note, the area west of the Kura River, including Karabakh and Utik (Udi) shifted back and forth between Caucasian Albania and Armenia and came to be considered Armenian Albania (not to be confused with Albania proper). The author of the book which I provided a link to above, Moves Kalankatuatsi goes into the history in detail AD300-900. It’s the only real comprehensive history of Caucasian Albania available. It very complex. The Udis by gthe way were known to Strabo and were one of the four major tribes of CA
Of course the Greeks and Romans named a lot of people things that they didn’t call themselves, including my own Welsh ancestors lol. The Balkan and Caucasian Albanians are obviously unrelated.
That’s nice, but it’s just one guy with a book, who wrote about a rather exotic subject that is highly nebulous, speculative, open to interpretation, etc. Don’t take it too seriously. Hundreds of scholars, throughout the West, are STILL arguing about the ancient Roman economy, which is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better documented than what you’re telling me about.
Jacob there was a preexisting Christian kingdom in geographical Azerbaijan known in the West as Caucasian Albania (and known locally to the Armenians and Georgians as Aghvank or Aluank) that was of a Caucasic ethnicity similar to the Lezgic tribe of Dagestan. There is actually a remnant tribe of indigenous descent from the old Cristian kingdom in Azerbaijan called the Udis that retain a folk history and memory of the Christian kingdom and their language matches that of the old Caucasian Albanian religious texts recently discovered in a monastery in .Mount Sinai. Azerbaijan has lately been exploiting this history to claim places like Karabakh as the ‘successor state’ of the Caucasian Albanians.
Anyway the last reflex of this nation was the Kingdom of Hereti in the north of Azerbaijan (Sheki, Gabala, Ganja, Barda) and in southeast Georgia and this is where the few remaining Udis live. In fact the Udis sent a letter to the Russian Czar in the eighteenth century complaining of Islamic persecution and of the Armenians taking over their church (we are an Albanian people) and in those days that whole region seems to have remained largely Christian and Udi-Alban. I think a major portion the Azeri population would still derive from the indigenous population along with Turks, Iranians, Armenians etc.
http://www.vehi.net/istoriya/armenia/kagantv/index.html
Thanks for your comment.
The Greek term “Albanoi” has some meaning (I think, “mountain dwellers”, “highlanders”, or something like that)… and it was highly fluid.
There were/are Albanoi even outside the Caucasus (most famously, in Albania.)
As far as the Caucasus, I once read that the Classical or Hellenistic-era Greeks referred to Armenians as “Albanoi.”
Beyond that, tying this term to any other kingdom or ethnos (e.g., Lezgins) is purely speculative… and/or situational. That is, at any given time, to the Greeks or Byzantines or Genoese or whoever, any state or tribe could have been “Albanoi.”
Was the ancient territory of the present-day state of Azerbaijan, entirely Armenian? No, I didn’t write or imply that it was. Probably, most of it was.
At a minimum, Nakhichevan and Karabakh were entirely Armenian, prior to the 17th century.
I find it strange that the usual race baiters here in the US haven’t jumped in supporting their “bruthas and sistahs” in Niger against the evil mostly white folks that have been financially raping Niger since.the times not long ago when France literally owned Niger and several other western African nation states? Usually these race baiters will make shit up to whine and cry about racism or what have you……but strangely they’ve been quiet. Maybe Sharpton is busy smearing shit on some new slow witted black juvenile girl and hasn’t been able to break free long enough to try to find Niger on a map to begin his usual racist ramp wind up.
I up-voted this comment, and it’s still at zero, as of right now. Who the hell down-voted this???
I’ve always felt that Artsakh of the four “breakaway republics” was the most fragile. South Ossetia and Abkhazia only have Georgia to deal with and Abkhazia, I’ve seen my my own eyes has some Russian Army there. The other breakaway Pridnestrovia or Transnistria only has Moldova, a country with a military that’s little better than police, to deal with and they absolutely have the Russian army there. Spent more than a few nights in a Tiraspol vacation rental listening to the locals and Russians practice together making sure the Moldovan’s who has more things that go boom in the night.
Armenia and Artsakh are a sad case. Lovely scenery, good food, a wretched government. I wonder if Russia kept Pashinyan around for the day when you need a chicken to be killed to scare the monkeys.
Well, basically the only thing that can actually save the Orthodox Armenians (which is on MAJOR reason RF needs to bother with them) is a full RF-backed coup and shut-down of the Azeris, unless Iran is willing to do it. I am curious to see if Putin will do anything…
One has to feel sorry for the Armenians, brave little folk.
If a country would be representative for the word “assimilation” I guess Turkey would be one of the main contenders. A bunch of assimilated Greeks, Armenians, all sorts of “stolen” Slavic and Euro people, Kurds, etc…
Only look at Constantinople and the enslavement of approx. 50.000 of its inhabitants when it was conquered…
I met a German Orientalist once and he needed quite some time to accept/confirm the aspect of everyday slavery in the Osman Empire. They love to talk about the multiculti stuff instead…
Anyway, it is interesting how highly aggressive and “querimonious” behaviour pays off on a large scale.
Looks like the Russians will accept this “final solution” in order to maintain their “good relations” with the Alievs, they don’t seem to have much of a choice.
Kudos to Dreizin for another wallchart-worthy-explanation masterpiece. People, Follow him !
(question: is the remote-control armenian side really ready for quasy self-abandonment, or what will be ze result of this mess ??)
Hey…………………………………
Off topic.
That was a good piece Jacob.
Why should than Russia bother with Armenia as it is now? It serves them no purpose, and they have already overinvested in that country anyway